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  • VERY CONFUSED View
      by babypisano on April 1, 2003 at 07:58:04 PST

    Please help a new guy understand.....I have been a member of this ladder for a few weeks and must say it has been one for the better ladders I have belonged to. I received a couple of "IM's" telling me about red and black and no fault, and to be honest had no idea what they were. I asked and was told they were tournaments. I asked what kind of tournaments and was told they were gin tournaments. To be honest with you I never heard of this kind of gin but then I am not the smartest person in the world. Today I received two emails telling me that there is a new ladder being formed, in some place called game colony. Again something I never heard of.
    The next email tells me there is the first tournament being played.
    This is where I started to get confused so I ask the following questions:

    If there is a new ladder being formed who will run this ladder?
    If there is a new ladder being formed, should not the players play some ladder games before there is a tournament?
    If there is a new ladder being formed should officers be elected?
    Is this new league being formed going to be a tournament league for the normal 10-12 players who join them or will this be a league for all the members to enjoy?
    If the new is being formed, who is forming it and have they experience in running a league or just running tournaments, because I think there is a difference?
    I, even with all the problems at word play, enjoy the few hours a day I spend playing gin on this ladder, and would suggest taking a few steps backward and make sure what you are trying to do will make the league better, and not kill it all together.
    Just a new guys opinion and I hope someone can answer the questions I have asked.

    • Re: VERY CONFUSED View
        by Katt 6410 on April 2, 2003 at 05:59:42 PST

      Are you related to iidontgiveadam??
      • Re: VERY CONFUSED View
          by babypisano on April 2, 2003 at 08:03:51 PST

        : Are you related to iidontgiveadam??

        Sorry no, but if I was, would that bother you?
        I am just a person who dont like to be hearded. I am old enought to make my own decisions. Seems like I was told and not asked. All the emails I recieved was " I " never was there a we, and I think the ladder is a "WE" thing. If idontgiveadam was that way, would like to meet him.

    • Re: VERY CONFUSED View
        by brazumich73 on April 1, 2003 at 20:14:59 PST

      Babypisano,
      Well, first of all, don't sell yourself short - as you said, you are newer to the ladder, and therefore not used to all the interesting tourney formats we have used in the past. To their credit, our tournament directors are very imaginative.

      The interest in playing as a group on a different game site comes from the problems we have currently been having with the WorldPlay game site. For those of us who have played on WorldPlay for a long time and have become close, the problems on the software are distressing because we do like to play our games. The idea of being on Game Colony was attractive to those who have organized it because the Case ladder there has been dormant for the better part of a year. That's a story for another post.

      To answer your questions...

      >>If there is a new ladder being formed who will run this ladder?
      The Gin (Game Colony) ladder has been around for a few years now. As an official Case ladder, it is ultimately run by Case. As of this post, the Game Colony ladder does not have any LadderOps. Any Case related matters would be handled by OpManagers or Senior Staff as the need arises.

      >>If there is a new ladder being formed, should not the players play some ladder games before there is a tournament?
      There is no requirement to play any ladder games before participating in a tournament. It might be a good idea to do so in advance to get familiar with their software, but it is not necessary nor required, no matter what ladder you play in.

      >>If there is a new ladder being formed should officers be elected?
      If you are referring to LadderOps, then no, it is not necessary to have LadderOps to start using a ladder. On any ladder within the Case , a member has to fill out an application online to become an Op. After checking is done via the appropriate staff members within Case, any candidates that past the first review are placed in the voting booth for that ladder. If the candidates pass the vote, then they take training classes for learning how to do all the tasks that Ops do.

      >>Is this new league being formed going to be a tournament league for the normal 10-12 players who join them or will this be a league for all the members to enjoy?
      The current Game Colony ladder is pretty much the same in its application as our WorldPlay ladder is now. The ladder is there for competition for all who want to participate, whether in tournies or in open play.

      >>If the new is being formed, who is forming it and have they experience in running a league or just running tournaments, because I think there is a difference?
      You are right, there is a difference between managing a ladder and running tournaments, although there are also many similarities. I've already noted above that the Game Colony gin ladder is an established ladder within the Case . While there are no LadderOps for that ladder at the moment (as far I can determine as of this writing) I do know that Katt 6410 and Bearhoodar are more than capable of running tournaments for that site if they so choose to. Any non-tournament problems on that ladder can be submitted to Case using the Support link on the Game Colony gin ladder web page.

      I hope that I've been able to answer your questions satisfactorily. You are free to play gin on as many different sites as you like - don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. And, if you wish, you don't have to play anywhere else but here - and don't let anyone tell you that you should move. I like WorldPlay the best, even with the unpleasent software problems it has lately, but I myself play on another gin ladder from time to time. I like the variety.

      If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Good Luck!

      brazumich73, LadderOp
      Case's Ladder

      • Re: VERY CONFUSED View
          by Suumas1 on April 1, 2003 at 20:33:09 PST

        The emails I received today "almost" appeared the the move was a "done deal." On another ladder it moved with limited success so think I will stay here even with problems.
        • Re: VERY CONFUSED View
            by PENNYD5660 on April 4, 2003 at 19:05:57 PST

          I am glad that you are staying Suumas1, I have been told by AOL tech support that they are in the processing of fixing Worldplay. I think patience is the key.
          • Re: VERY CONFUSED View
              by Katt 6410 on April 10, 2003 at 21:53:32 PDT

            I hope you are right Penny. I would love for Worldplay to be fixed!! It is my home and there is no other site like it!! I havent left Worldplay and will continue to play here as long as it allows us to. I miss the intimacy of our ladder and hope that we will have that again someday. Katt
        • Re: VERY CONFUSED View
            by bearhoodar1 on April 2, 2003 at 09:45:03 PST

          Worldplay graphics are by far the best of any site. And if we could get aol &/or ea.com to maintain it at least, if not upgrade it, I would be happy to play here exclusively as i have for the past almost 4 years.. But with all the problems, I am willing to play at other sites and set up tourneys in gamecolony. Just maybe we can get through a tourney without 16 mass boots.
          Hope to see many of you there.......bear
          • Re: VERY CONFUSED View
              by babypisano on April 2, 2003 at 11:03:15 PST

            : Worldplay graphics are by far the best of any site. And if we could get aol &/or ea.com to maintain it at least, if not upgrade it, I would be happy to play here exclusively as i have for the past almost 4 years.. But with all the problems, I am willing to play at other sites and set up tourneys in gamecolony. Just maybe we can get through a tourney without 16 mass boots.
            : Hope to see many of you there.......bear

            Mary,
            I love you like a sister, just because the check is in the mail. But you are talking only about tournaments. This is a ladder, and the thinking should be ladder games first..then tournaments. This is only my feelings and i speak only for me.
            "Baby"

            • Re: VERY CONFUSED View
                by Katt 6410 on April 2, 2003 at 19:22:00 PST

              Sounds like iidontgiveadam to me!!! Smooches Jim!!!
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