- RULING ON ALLOW SUBS View
by PuttyHead on November 26, 2006 at 16:47:58 PSTHELLO HAVEN MEMBERS
THE HOLIDAY'S ARE UPON US NOW AND TO ME
ITS MY FAVORITE TIME OF YEAR. MYSELF, ALONG WITH MY ENTIRE STAFF WISHES
EVERYONE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR FOR GIVING, AND
HOPING TO RECIEVED THAT SPECIAL GIFT THAT YOU WANT. THERE IS MORE TO
CHRISTMAS THAN GETTING GIFTS. THERE ARE THE MANY HOMELESS AND THE POOR
WHO MIGHT NOT GET TO HAVE CHRISTMAS THIS YEAR. IF YOU CAN, DIG DOWN A
LITTLE DEEPER IN THEM POCKETS OR IN THAT PURSE AND SPARE SOME MONEY IN
HELPING THOSE WHOM HAS LOTS LESS THAN WE DO. HELPING THOSE THAT ARE
IN GREATER NEED IS WHAT CHRISTMAS IS ALL ABOUT.I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TOUCH ON SOMETHING
ELSE WITH EVERYONE. THATS ARE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN IN THE MILITARY
FIGHTING THE WAR IN AFGANSTAN AND IRAQ. BEING A FORMER MARINE ITS THE
HARDEST TIME EVER DURING THE MONTHS OF NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER BEING
AWAY FROM HOME AND YOUR LOVED ONES, BUT ITS EVEN HARDER ON THE
MILITARY BEING UP ON THE FRONT LINES FIGHTING IT A WAR THAT SEEMS TO
BE GOING NO WHERE. WAY TO MANY MEN AND WOMEN HAVE LOST THERE LIVES
OVER THIS. I LIVE IN A MILITARY TOWN AND EARN MY LIVING WORKING HERE
AT CAMP LEJEUNE.I HAVE SEEN MANY MANY BUS LOADS OF
MARINES HEADING OUT TO IRAQ. WHATS EVEN SADDER TO SEE IS WHEN THEY
RETURN AND OFF LOAD FROM THE BUSES AND BEFORE BEING DISMISSED TO GO
TO THERE LOVE ONES IS REMEMBERING THOSE THAT DID NOT COME BACK HOME
WITH THEM.AS I'M TYPING THIS NEWSLETTER ZILLA IS
NOW IN IRAQ. MY PRAYERS ARE WITH HIM AND HIS FAMILY FOR A SAFE RETURN.
IF YOU GET A CHANCE DO THIS. IF YOU SEE A MILITARY PERSON GO UP TO
THEM AND OFFER YOUR HAND AND SAY THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOUR DOING FOR
US. THIS GOES A LONG WAY AND LIFTS THERE SPIRITS SO MUCH. AS SOON AS
SAMEO GETS BACK ON LINE, JESSIE HAS MADE UP A LINK THAT WILL BE ON OUR
MAIN PAGE WHERE AS YOU CAN GO IN AND POST MESSAGES TO ZILLA.
NEXT WEEK I WILL BE CONTACTING THE
MILITARY WIVES CLUB HERE ON BASE AND GETTING SOME LINKS FOR THOSE THAT
MIGHT WANT TO DO WHAT I DO EVERY YEAR. I SEND OUT A COUPLE CARE
PACKAGES TO OUR MEN AND WOMEN OVER IN IRAQ. HERE IS ANOTHER WAY OF
GIVING SOMETHING TO THEM AND MAKING THERE HOLIDAYS A LITTLE BIT
BRIGHTER FOR THEM.I KNOW I'M LONG WINDED BUT ITS
CHRISTMAS TIME AND THE TIME FOR GIVING. IF YOU CAN PLEASE TRY AND HELP
SOMEONE WITH LOTS LESS THAN YOU MAY HAVE OR TRYING TO SPREAD
SOME JOY TO THOSE IN OUR MILITARY.MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE AND HAVE A
HAPPY NEW YEARS.PUTTY/GARY AND HIS ENTIRE STAFF HERE
AT THE HAVEN.AFTER MANY LONG MONTHS AND LOTS OF
TALKING WITH SOME FROM OTHER LEAGUES, MY ADMIN STAFF, AND WATCHING THE
CHAT ENTERED IN THE LOBBY, I HAVE CAME UP WITH WHAT WE WILL TO DO
ABOUT SUBBING IN EITHER 2-VS-2 OR 2-VS-2 DOUBLE ELIMINATION TOURNEYS.BUT 1ST LETS LOOK AT THIS. I PUT TO THE
VOTING BOOTH MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SUBBING. I USE THE VOTING BOOTH AS A
TOOL TO SEE WHAT MEMBERS WANT AND CAN GET A FEEL OF THERE THINKING ON
CERTIAN MATTERS. HERE ARE THE RESULTS.SHOULD SUBS BE ALLOWED IN A 2-VS-2
DOUBLE ELIMINATION TOURNEY
YES 9 VOTES (39%)
NO 12 VOTES (52%)
DOES NOT MATTER 2 VOTES (8%)
IF 2 PLAYERS GO TEAM AUTO AND ARE PAIRED
UP, 1 OF THE PLAYERS LEAVE THE GAME AFTER JUST 1 LOSS, SHOULD A SUB BE
ALLOWED.YES 14 VOTES (58%)
NO 9 VOTES (37%)
DOES NOT MATTER 1 VOTES (4%)
IF DURING A 2-VS-2 D.E. TOURNEY ONE
PLAYER FROM A TEAM MUST LEAVE BECAUSE OF AN EMERGENCY, SHOULD A SUB BE
ALLOWED.YES 17 VOTES (70%)
NO 6 VOTES (25%)
DOES NOT MATTER 1 VOTES (4%)
IF DURING PLAY OF A 2-VS-2 D.E. TOURNEY,
1 PLAYER FROM A TEAM HAS PUTER PROBLEMS AND LEAVE'S THE GAME AND DOES
NOT RETURN, SHOULD A SUB THAN BE ALLOWED.
YES 17 VOTES (60%)
NO 10 VOTES (35%)
DOES NOT MATTER 1 VOTES (3%)AS YOU CAN SEE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME
ONES VOTED ON EVERY QUESTION, OR IT LOOKS LIKE IT TO ME. WHAT
PUZZLE'S ME, SHOULD SUBS BE ALLOWED AND IT CAME UP NO BUT REST OF
QUESTIONS CAME UP YES. YOUR SAYING NO WE DON'T WANT SUBS BUT ITS OK TO
ALLOW SUBBING IF IN OTHER MATTERS OF THE 2-VS-2.I'M GOING TO MAKE IT OFFICAL THAT NO
SUBS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. IT GOES IN EFFECT AS
SOON AS THIS NEWSLETTER GETS TO YOU. SOME WILL NOT GET A COPY SO I WILL
POST THIS ALSO IN THE FORUM. AOL AND EARTH LINK MEMBERS DO NOT GET A
COPY BECAUSE THEY HAVE CASE'S LISTED ASJUNK MAIL AND WILL NOT ALLOW IT
TO GO THRU.I HAVE ALSO TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO
TAKE THIS TO THE MEMBERS FOR YOUR INPUT ON THE CHOICE I HAVE MADE.
I'M ONLY HUMAN I DO MAKE THE WRONG CALLS FROM TIME TO TIME. THIS MAY BE
ONE OF THEM, BUT I FEEL TRULY ON WHAT I DECIDED. PLEASE E-MAIL ME YOUR
COMMENTS: PUTTYSHAVEN@YAHOO.COM PLEASE BE UP FRONT ON WHAT YOU THINK.HERE IS MY REASONING, NO MATTER WHAT,
SOMEONE GETS HURT ON A PLAYER LEAVING AND NOT RETURNING. I KNOW NO ONE
WANTS TO KEEP TAKING A LOSS FOR A MISSING PARTNER. WE GO IN AND ALLOW
SUBS AND NOW WERE CREATING MORE PROBLEMS. WE ARE AWARDING THE MISSING
PLAYER FOR NOT BEING THERE. THE SUB THAT SITS IN GETS NOTHING FROM IT.
AT THE SAME TIME AND I DON'T CARE WHOM IT IS BUT IF YOUR BEAT BY THE
ONE PLAYER REMAINING AND THAT SUB ITS GOING TO MAKE YOU MAD. WE DID
THIS THE OTHER NIGHT AND IT CAME BACK TO HAUNT ME FOR ALLOWING THIS TO
TAKE PLACE. I WAS BEAT BY THAT SUB AND THE REMAING PLAYER. I JUST WENT
OFF ON MY MERRY WAY. IN THE MEAN TIME THAT SUB AND 1 REMAINING PLAYER
KEPT WINNING. THE OFF LINES WERE COMING IN. I HAD THOUGHT THE REMAINING
PLAYERS WERE GOOD WITH WHAT WAS DONE. EVERYONE AGREED IN LOBBY. I CAN
GO IN AND BOX THAT PLAYER FOR LEAVING, BUT HOW DO I KNOW IF IT WAS NOT
DONE ON PURPOSE. NO ONE WINS. THERE ARE MORE HURT BEING CREATED ALL
AROUND. NO MATTER WHAT I DECIDE I END UP ON THE LOSING END. I WANT FOR
NO TO GET HURT OVER THE SUBBING ISSUE. I HAVE GOTTEN OFF LINES ON THIS
MATTER AND HAVE BEEN CALLED EVERYTHING BUT PUTTY. I LOOK THE OTHER WAY.
YES IT HURTS AT TIMES. I LIKE THE HAVEN AND ITS MEMBERS. WHAT EVER
HAPPEN TO THE DAYS WHERE AS THIS IS A GAME OF FUN, A TIME TO KICK BACK
AND ENJOY FRIENDSHIP AND A GOOD GAME OF CARDS.BY MAKING THIS CHOICE I MAY LOSE SOME
MEMBERS BUT I MADE A TOUGH CALL AND I WILL STICK TO IT. IF YOU THE
MEMBERS CAN CONVINCE US TO ALLOW SUBS I WILL DO THAT. YOUR COMMENTS
BACK TO ME WILL READ AND I WILL BE STRAIGHT FORTH WITH YOU AS I HOPE
YOU WILL. PLEASE DO THIS. WHEN YOU RESPOND BACK JUST DON'T SAY YES WE
SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT ALLOW SUBS. THIS DON'T HELP ME. BE UP FRONT AND
LET ME HAVE IT WITH EITHER 1 OR 2 BARRELS OF THE GUN.I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS MAT
TER.LAST OF ALL I DO THANK EVERYONE FOR
SUPPORTING ME AND MY STAFF HERE AT THE HAVEN. YOUR ALL A GREAT BUNCH
OF PEOPLE. A SPECIAL THANKS ALSO TO MY STAFF. YOUR LONG HOURS YOU PUT
INTO HOSTING ONLY MAKES ME LOOK BETTER. THANKS FOR THE GREAT WORK YOUR
DOING FOR ME.PUTTY/GARY